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Repetition of a Lie Does Not Make it True

8/30/2011 5:07 AM   By NCPSSM
Explaining Social Security’s financing mechanisms to the average person just isn’t easy.  That fact is one reason why conservatives for years have, somewhat successfully, persuaded too many to believe that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme—regardless of the facts. Kudos to Mother Jones for making yet another run at explaining why Social Security is absolutely not a Ponzi scheme.    We urge our readers to print this one out, learn it, and arm yourself so that you can educate the next person you hear who makes this ridiculous claim.  We’d also suggest you make this an election day litmus test because as we’ve said again and again and MJ says so well here: “anyone who says that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme either misunderstands Social Security, misunderstands Ponzi schemes, is deliberately lying, or some combination of those “

A Venn Diagram for Rick Perry: Social Security Is Not a Ponzi Scheme

On Saturday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry told a group of voters that Social Security is a "Ponzi scheme" and a "monstrous lie" to younger Americans. It's not the first time the GOP presidential candidate has made such claims. The Texas governor also described Social Security as a Ponzi scheme in his 2010 book, "Fed Up!," and has argued the program is unconstitutional and could be handed over to the states. When politicians make clearly false claims, reporters have an obligation to explain to readers why those claims are false—or at least quote someone who can. I would suggest political scientist Jonathan Bernstein: Very simple: anyone who says that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme either misunderstands Social Security, misunderstands Ponzi schemes, is deliberately lying, or some combination of those... After all, a Ponzi scheme is a deliberate fraud. Saying that Social Security is financed like a Ponzi scheme is factually wrong, but saying that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme or is like a Ponzi scheme is basically a false accusation of fraud against the US government and the politicians who have supported Social Security over the years. Andrew Sullivan's readers also have a number of good reasons why Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. The Social Security Administration also has a good webpage explaining why Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. But I find that charts often make understanding things easier, so here's a Venn diagram I made that explains some of the differences and similarities between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme:
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  1. Rosemarie Slavenas's avatar Rosemarie Slavenas said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Our government again shows us how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. With the average SS benefit for women at $12,000/ year and $14,000/ year for men, all our SS supported elderly are living barely over the federal level.
  2. Alton Morgan Jr's avatar Alton Morgan Jr said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Rick Perry is a political evangelist that will say anything he believes his audience wants to hear in order to get elected. A vote for him or any other Republican candidate is a vote for the wealthy, corporations and special interests and will result in further transfer of wealth to the wealthy to the detriment of the middle class.
  3. Roy Hilderbrand's avatar Roy Hilderbrand said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Why has all retirees over 65 yrs.eliminated from the group plans receiving reiief from $ annual limits on our drug plan.??????
  4. Roy Hilderbrand's avatar Roy Hilderbrand said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    I thought Health Care Reform Act was to benefit the elderly?????pyi
  5. Roy Hilderbrand's avatar Roy Hilderbrand said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    I DONT KNOW OF A REPILICAN POLITION THAT DOESNT LIE
  6. Roy Hilderbrand's avatar Roy Hilderbrand said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    LOOK AT WHAT THE LAST TEXAS GOV . DONE TO US
  7. Carol Eldridge's avatar Carol Eldridge said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Heaven help us if Gov. Perry makes it to the White House. He impresses me as lacking intelligence in many areas and a nut case to boot - a very dangerous combination.
  8. margaret sheppard's avatar margaret sheppard said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    i will be 69 this month and i have heard this trash about social security for probably 40 years. g w bush tried to privatize it for his rich friends to play the stock market . we see how that would have ended up. there would be no money their for sure.
  9. Ernest Busnardo's avatar Ernest Busnardo said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Instead of cutting social security and medicare, cut the wages of all congresmen senators and all the white house staff who just got huge wage increases. ,Tax all large corporations who pay nothing.
  10. Janet Rousch's avatar Janet Rousch said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Mr. Rick Perry: Since I've worked about 30 years till retired 7-2010; noting each paycheck had a sum taken out to apply to my social security upon retirement: How on earth can you call social securirty a "ponzi scheme?" Thank you, Janet Rousch Petersburg, Va.
  11. B. Harding's avatar B. Harding said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    Politics has become a mud wrestling event! But the participants aren't as pretty as they once were!
  12. RAYMOND ORMAN's avatar RAYMOND ORMAN said on 6/27/2012 6:16 PM: Reply  
    If the money that has been paid in is not available and missing; apparently it has been stolen. Thieves according to our country\'s law are to be punished by some form of prison sentence. If the thief is on probation rights are restricted. My question to Congress not where\'s the beef but WHERE IS OUR MONEY? Which of them will stand accountable to the 53,000,000 americans these funds belong; PONZI PERRY.

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